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with the republican leadership and governor there and right to work laws. so this creates a whole other dynamic of conversation that heritage with the demint at the top can put in conservative context. now that's the ideal strategy. i think there is some legitimacy that -- to joan's point short of the name calling. >> crazy wing nut may not be your phrase. >> i'm sorry, mike. >> you know, going to be close to watch to see exactly, given his leadership of this organization, do they become something nothing more than than a hatchet job for conservatives or are they principled arguments with that strong conservative undercurrent to them. we'll see. >> speaking of crazy wing nuts if we're talking about a potential move to the center, ann cull tour on fox yesterday, saying that the republicans need to understand they lost and make a deal with the president. let us take a listen to the choice piece of sound. >> are you saying then, for pr purposes, that they should give in to obama on the tax rate? >> not exactly. well, yeah, i guess i am. >> you're saying to capitulate to obama who's -- we don't hav
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